As we've all seen, the PlayStation 3 had no problem PENETRATING the Japanese market. And in just over three days, the PlayStation 3 computer entertainment platform will be officially released in the United States, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Who else besides me is looking forward to this? Overall, 11.17 will be the most important date for Americans this year.

1117 - PLAY B3YOND

maybe the most important date for americans who play video games, but not all.

No, cuz that's where you're wrong. Most people just think that the PlayStation 3 is about playing video games. This is simply not the case. The PlayStation 3 is marketed as a computer entertainment platform. What enters your house is a multimedia device that will let you integrate all your electronic devices and simplify your life while also enriching it. Even companies admit that the PlayStation 3 isn't about games. Everyone is queing up to buy PlayStation 3s to make cluster servers, and they already did this with the PlayStation 2.

I hate it when people don't understand the concept of computer entertainment. Just another company trying to help society but getting shunned due to the ignorance of the consumers.

Or, maybe you don't understand the people that just don't care

Is it fair to say that people don't care when both the PlayStation and its successor the PlayStatino 2 have sold more than 100 million units each? What Sony Computer Entertainment is offering here is revolutionary. And if people can have a great time, the price is not a problem. Buying a Sony product is about refusing to compromise, and when people do that, it helps the human race advance, something you don't seem to care about.

It is a big day for sony fans. I really don't find it a huge deal. I think the PS3 is cool (I like the 360 more though) I think that there will be bigger days.

No, this isn't just about Sony followers. 11/17 will be the most important day for the United States because it marks the beginning of the next generation of computer entertainment. If you want to be Amish, fine, just don't flaunt it around me.

It is fair. People that don't care about consoles in general wouldn't care about the PSOne and PS2 selling how many or what console sold what. Most people aren't care what brand of anything, but for this sake, let's say television they can get as long as it's big and affordable. Those are the "shunners" by your definition apparently.

Now, you've gone on a tangent about how well the PSOne and PS2 sold, yet a post before tells of shunning. Is Sony an underdog or a dominator? Make up your mind.

The mark of th 7th genration is when all of the console are out or even when they each have there big games behind them.

How am I on a tangent? My previous post was about the release of the PlayStation 3, which is what this thread is about. Stop fooling around and get back on topic. I've been ontopic this whole time, and I'm not going to listen to this bs. But anyways, Sony and SCEI are the underdogs here, everyone is against them. And when I say everyone, I mean everyone. We can see that the world is riddled with Nintendo fanboys criticizing the PlayStation 3, from every aspect, from its innovative controller to its high-performance hardware.

No, the seventh-generation doesn't begin until Sony says so.

Oh, I see, even though I give a shit about console gaming, I am a Nintendo fanboy. As long as it means not being you.

You mean as long as it means not realizing the contributions that Sony and its respective subsidiaries have presented the world with.

No, I mean as long as I don't fool myself in believing your bullshit that Sony is an underdog AND a major world company that has brought innovation into the world.

You want to talk about bullshit? Sony routinely has more of its products on "best of" lists than any other company in the world. This is evident from the British gadget magazine T3, American science magazine Popular Science, and American computing magazine PC World. Look it up, it's a fact. I subscribe to two of these magazines, and Sony has been the best innovator for at least the past five years. Sony isn't about making up gimmicks to get people's money. Sony is all about going into the future.

OKAY, so we're back to Sony being the best in the world. If it's the best then how the hell can Sony be an underdog?

Sony is the best in terms of technological advancement because it makes the best products. But just because it's good doesn't mean it's always going to win. Honda learned this the hard way with the NSX. Is the NSX shit? By all means, no. The NSX was technologically and ergonomically superior to any Ferrari on the market, but did people want to buy it? No. It's cuz people like you are complete bigots and are too easily distracted by gimmicks like the Nintendo DS and the Wii. It's why America is so far behind countries like Japan and South Korea (well, that, and the fact that Christianity is a frikkin' plague in this country).

Again, think I give a damn about Nintendo? Think I give a damn about Sony? I only give a damn about the best, which is clearly not Sony because they make the such "quality" products and yet they're underdogs.

If you doubt the quality of Sony's products, the Network Walkman NW-HD1 was the most advanced digital audio palyer at the time of its release. It offered a playback time of more than three times that of the Apple iPod, had an audio codec that could compress audio files more than twice as efficiently as the iPod's AAC, and featured a brushed aluminum case, while still being thinner and lighter than the iPod. Not to mention the price per gigabyte was nearly identical to that of the iPod. But Sony didn't win, cuz people were being complete idiots. If you want the best, then Sony is the way to go. Sony is for people who do not believe in compromise. And apparently, you are not one of them, because you hate Sony. Which makes it a complete oxymoron if you "give a damn about the best".

look, myscrnnm chill. it's okay you're back but don't make it bad for everyone...

look, the ps3 is impressive. i'm not ignorant, so i can admit when someone i don't support has something good going on. HOWEVER. i do not believe it is worth getting. at least not yet. of the few 13 titles, 9 can be found on other systems with graphics at about the look. of the 4 remaining, only one deserves notice (resistance, obviously). as great as this game is, no gme is worth a $600 console by itself. if you're a gamer just wanting it for the games, i say wait until more (good) games comes out when hopefully a couple of bucks would drop. and in a recent finding, the ps3 is NOT completely backwards compatible. yes, it's microsoft's bullsh*t. not as bad as on the 360; just 200 out of every 8000 not compatible no big deal i guess. then there's also the matter that there are very few being released this year (btw myscrnnm do you have a preorder? just curious). all-in-all i'm saying if you're a strct gamer who doesn't care about the other stuff: wait this one out.

on a side note, and myscrnnm i think you would agree, i think it would have been best if instead of the current 2 system thing they have going, i think it would be better if they had one like the $600 version, and one that is pure gaming: no pictures, no movies, no music; just for games. besides, sony has turned it into a freakin computer. anybody that can dish out $600 on a console would probably already have a pc that can do all this stuff, but better.

myscrnnm i know you will answer me, and i do want some condradiction. let's just try to leave out the insults and the flaming. i just want a standard intelligent conversation.

This is a temporary problem. The PlayStation 3 just has a few software deficiencies that do not allow backwards compatibility. However, it contains all the original components of the PlayStation 2, namely the EE+GS microprocessor. Sony Computer Entertainment has stated that they will soon be releasing a firmware update for the PlayStation 3 computer entertainment platform to allow for complete backwards compatibility. The difference of this with the XBox 360 is that the Xbox 360 does not actually use true backwards compability. It uses the original discs, but since the hardware is completely different, it must use software emulation to allow you to play original Xbox games on the Xbox 360 game console.

Also, no, I actually don't. Because my parents wouldn't let me preorder. And now they won't even let me get one at launch.

oh, tough. eh my parents would probably be the same way. think christmas would be possible then, or are you going to have to wait until next year?

It just depends on the availability of the shipments. But I'm guessing I can get one before Q1, since everyone I know in real life hates the PlayStation 3 except for like two or three people who are also getting one.

So you will not have one for a long time.

Fuck off, dickweed.

On another note, apparently gamestop is going to fire employees who are buying PS3's. They're understocked from the 8 they expected at each store and are not going to finish all the preorders by launch. If you have a preorder, you might have to wait till right before chirstmas to get that.

Whoever told you that is a fucking idiot. GameStop is saying that the employees who preordered PlayStation 3s might not be getting one due to the proejcted shortage and the theory that the customers will riot. Now why the FUCK would GameStop be firing employees?!

They were oversold,
the info is from personal accounts


I can find more..

What the fuck?! That doesn't have anything about employees getting fired. They were just bitching about the working conditions.

They said they would get fired if they bought a PS# on the 17th...

Oh, and btw...

I doubt that applies to buying OUTSIDE of the GameStop and EB Games chains. Because first of all, the company does not have control over the employees' lives. If an employee wants to go to Best Buy or Circuit City to pick one up, that's fine by them.

well THAT was unneccesary. you feeling okay?

It's myscrnnm, what j00 expect?

i dunno, that maybe after leaving what, 3 times now he'd get a clue?

myscrnnm said to me he has left. No more arguments that have to do with opinion and fact. hmm.

Again? That was fast. Damn, now I'm going to be bored again.

ehh, the PS3 is too expensive, and besides, someone shot someone while trying to get a PS3 before they were sold, that is going to make some people not buy a PS3 for a bit

yeah. aots did a poll that asked whther a ps3 was worth betting shot over. 89% said no.

and also, i've noticed less dvd's coming out in blu-ray, which might mean blu-ray is going down, too bad for the PS3

I'm not insulting you all I'm saying is most places have preorders backed up to 2007. So don't swear me at me you sick pervert.

Is any console worth getting shot over?

nope, but there are those that will get shot just for a system, odd

Random crap about violence and stuff split here.

Expensive?! Stop flying with me. The PlayStation 3 is the best value of all the seventh-generation consoles. Sony loses more than $270 for every PlayStation 3 that they manufacture and sell. The hardware alone is worth more than $800 not including the HDD. Not to mention they lose even more money for the 20GB model. Now, they could have just not made a 20GB version, but then people would be eating asparagus about how there is only a $599 version of the PlayStation 3. The thing is, the processing power of the PlayStation 3 is even beyond that of enterprise-level servers. SO stop writing sonnets and face the uber cool facts.

Right, that looks like abuse of swearing, but not enough to warrant a warn, so I'll just edit it

Look myscrnm no one is saying that the PS3 is not worth it! All we are saying is that it does cost alot of money and no kid can pull 600 out of thin air. By the way not even you can say 600$ is not alot of money.

Okay, even I will admit that $600 is no small sum. But for what you're getting, it's a fucking steal. That's what people just can't comprehend, it's not just about the price, it's about the value. Is it nonsense to compare food at a company cafeteria to a fine restaurant?!

See like I said before for what the PS3 is running in it is worth 800 and up. But like I said most of us are 13-17 and 600 dollars is not something that comes out of the air.

That's why instead of spending like $650 for an Xbox 360 and a Wii, you should just get a PlayStation 3 and save $50.

Dude, I can't even pull 250 out of the air. I have a 360 and plan to keep. Don't bring up christmas or my birthday cuz for Christmas I'm asking for a zune and for my birthday I'm getting xbox live.

myscrnnm, it took some of us, like me, probably over a year to earn $400 from working, and i'm sticking with a 360, then maybe a wii, and never going to get a PS3, mainly cause its too expensive for me, and that my cousin is going to get it

I ad 80$ saved then my freinds grandma died and at the dinner in her honor she gave us all 150$ Then I went to EB games with 2 sports bag and they told me I had 300$ so I sold it all and got a 360. So I went from 480$ to 25$