Person from beyond
Jul 14 2007, 07:04 PM
I thought about putting this in academia, but oh well...
This is one my favorite series, and its about to come to an end!

it is gonna be awesome!!!
Ive got mine reserved!
ive read through the whole series in the past month several times
I am overly excited! (in case yeh haven't noticed)
myscrnnm
Jul 14 2007, 07:10 PM
I've got to say, the James Bond series is far better (both the book and movie).
myusrnm
Jul 14 2007, 08:33 PM
ian fleming is great.
i can't see the point in reserving it. first day, i'll bike to qfc, get there right when it opens, and buy a copy, which will get it to me much quicker than those of you who are getting it in the mail
Guest_LucresSerebii_*
Jul 14 2007, 09:06 PM
I know. My dad was going to reserve it, but I said to just go there instead. So what does everyone think is going to happen? Sorry, forgot to log in.
myscrnnm
Jul 14 2007, 10:30 PM
QUOTE(myusrnm @ Jul 14 2007, 09:33 PM)

ian fleming is great.
i can't see the point in reserving it. first day, i'll bike to qfc, get there right when it opens, and buy a copy, which will get it to me much quicker than those of you who are getting it in the mail
Hello? Borders? You get it at midnight.
QUOTE(Guest_LucresSerebii_* @ Jul 14 2007, 10:06 PM)

I know. My dad was going to reserve it, but I said to just go there instead. So what does everyone think is going to happen? Sorry, forgot to log in.
lmao. I think that Dumbledore and Sirius will come back to life, Snape will be a hero, Potter and Malfoy make nice, and Ron fucks Hermione.
djbob
Jul 14 2007, 11:10 PM
Not Ron... and Dumbledore and Sirius are gone for good. Snape might be a hero. And Malfoy's gonna get his sorry ass kicked.
myncknm
Jul 15 2007, 12:09 AM
QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 15 2007, 12:10 AM)

Not Ron... and Dumbledore and Sirius are gone for good. Snape might be a hero. And Malfoy's gonna get his sorry ass kicked.
i second that
myusrnm
Jul 15 2007, 12:23 AM
WARNING; POSSIBLE SPOILER? Although I doubt it.Spoiler!
myscrnnm
Jul 15 2007, 01:04 AM
QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 15 2007, 12:10 AM)

Not Ron... and Dumbledore and Sirius are gone for good. Snape might be a hero. And Malfoy's gonna get his sorry ass kicked.
As much as we hate Ron, he's clearly going to fuck Hermione in this book. I've always thought that Snape was one of the cooler characters. And Malfoy is going to become a great man.
Korps Commander
Jul 15 2007, 08:43 AM
Ron - going to die
Snape - I don't think he was as evil as people say. Remember that one conversation he supposedly had with Dumbledore in the 6th book where he "didn't want to do something" but Dumbledore said "he had already given his word" (or something like that)? That sounds suspicious.
Hermoine - no idea
Harry - he has to die. It would be cruel of JKR to have him live after all this overwhelming trauma in his life.
Voldemort - going to die
Ginny - possibly going to die. Remember in an earlier book, when somebody said that the Death Eaters go for the people you love the most? I think they'll do that again in this boo,
Dumbledore - already dead. However, its interesting to note that JKR
did say that his death is more complicated than people think.
Malfoy - Actually, djbob, I don't think he's going to get his "sorry ass kicked". The fact that he continually has second doubts about following Voldemort's orders and finally lowers his wand when he's about to kill Dumbledore makes it clear that JKR wants him to be redeemed.
Timebandit
Jul 15 2007, 09:52 AM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Jul 15 2007, 08:43 AM)

Harry - he has to die. It would be cruel of JKR to have him live after all this overwhelming trauma in his life.
Voldemort - going to die
Eh, I think that snape knows that he needs to get rid of everything that Voldemort has done. To kill Voldemort, they must also get rid of Harry's scar, and he LOOSES HDIS MAGIK PIXIEE DUZT ppOWERrS d00d.
myncknm
Jul 15 2007, 09:56 AM
This should break out in a time-turner war. First Harry uses one to save Dumbledore, then Voldemort uses one to make sure that Dumbledore dies, etc.
myscrnnm
Jul 15 2007, 12:46 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Jul 15 2007, 09:43 AM)

Hermoine - no idea
Malfoy - Actually, djbob, I don't think he's going to get his "sorry ass kicked". The fact that he continually has second doubts about following Voldemort's orders and finally lowers his wand when he's about to kill Dumbledore makes it clear that JKR wants him to be redeemed.
Hermione is going to get fucked by Ron.
Yeah, I've always thought that Malfoy is more of a man who hides behind the guise of a bully, but is in fact doubtful of himself.
QUOTE(myncknm @ Jul 15 2007, 10:56 AM)

This should break out in a time-turner war. First Harry uses one to save Dumbledore, then Voldemort uses one to make sure that Dumbledore dies, etc.
Well, if you were going to use time-turners, Potter should just go back in time and kill Voldemort when he was a baby (as Riddle).
myncknm
Jul 15 2007, 12:56 PM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 15 2007, 01:46 PM)

Hermione is going to get fucked by Ron.
Yeah, I've always thought that Malfoy is more of a man who hides behind the guise of a bully, but is in fact doubtful of himself.
Well, if you were going to use time-turners, Potter should just go back in time and kill Voldemort when he was a baby (as Riddle).
That's impossible though. It breaks causality.
myscrnnm
Jul 15 2007, 01:20 PM
QUOTE(myncknm @ Jul 15 2007, 01:56 PM)

That's impossible though. It breaks causality.

Then so is your scenario. Because Potter wouldn't go back in time to save Dumbledore because he would already have saved him, which means he wouldn't have to back in time in the first place.
djbob
Jul 15 2007, 01:29 PM
Going back in time almost inevitably breaks causality. Oh yah, and mayhaps on the Malfoy. But he will get his butt kicked at least once, maybe before turning to the good side. He might turn to the good side and then die.
The whole book is really just gonna be a race for the cruxes.
myscrnnm
Jul 15 2007, 01:33 PM
QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 15 2007, 02:29 PM)

Going back in time almost inevitably breaks causality. Oh yah, and mayhaps on the Malfoy. But he will get his butt kicked at least once, maybe before turning to the good side. He might turn to the good side and then die.
The whole book is really just gonna be a race for the cruxes.
Well, they've already broken causality by going back in time to save Buckbeak.
And I think that Malfoy will be the real main character in the new J.K. Rowling book. Kind of like how in Sherlock Holmes, the main character, but the book focused on Dr. Watson. So Potter will be like the Watson of the new J.K. Rowling book, and Malfoy will be the Sherlock Holmes.
myusrnm
Jul 15 2007, 07:45 PM
I already explained this.
Harry is fighting Voldermort,
who cackles and starts monologuing about how harry is about to die.
Then Harry cracks his wand in half, takes the two pieces and forms a cross.
And says stuff like "Heathen, Witches, blah, blah, blah"
And Voldermort screams in agony.
And falls to the ground
myscrnnm
Jul 15 2007, 09:32 PM
QUOTE(myusrnm @ Jul 15 2007, 08:45 PM)

I already explained this.
Harry is fighting Voldermort,
who cackles and starts monologuing about how harry is about to die.
Then Harry cracks his wand in half, takes the two pieces and forms a cross.
And says stuff like "Heathen, Witches, blah, blah, blah"
And Voldermort screams in agony.
And falls to the ground
Rather anticlimactic.
djbob
Jul 15 2007, 09:52 PM
Methinks Barney and 2Pac will come on the scene in the last battle and help Voldemort with his emotional difficulties, thereby ending his reign of terror.
myusrnm
Jul 16 2007, 03:02 PM
there's also a 281 page fanfiction circulating around. Not very well written.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30726/There's also these
http://www.scribd.com/doc/97191http://www.scribd.com/doc/185494/ (haha)
None of them start properly. The whole
QUOTE
The two men appeared out of nowhere, a few yards apart in the narrow, moonlit lane. For a second they stood quite still, wands pointing at each other's chests: then, recognising each other, they stowed their wands beneath their cloaks and set off, side by side, in the same direction.
"News?", asked the taller of the two.
"The best," replied Snape.'
is supposed to be the beginning
Also, I have reason to believe the whole epilogue may be true.
these are pages of the epilogue, which may or may not be spoilers, so read at your own risk.http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/139/88030162vy2.jpghttp://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8273/78453390xo2.jpghttp://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9415/46370600jy2.jpghttp://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6200/85393962gn3.jpgThe page numbers match up to the table of contents (which has most definitely been leaked) too.
update: first 495 pages have Actually been leaked.
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1252898/13924344/http://rs113.rapidshare.com/files/43171074/HP7-495.rar
myncknm
Jul 16 2007, 06:55 PM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 15 2007, 02:20 PM)

Then so is your scenario. Because Potter wouldn't go back in time to save Dumbledore because he would already have saved him, which means he wouldn't have to back in time in the first place.
No see, if Harry makes sure that his past self doesn't know that he saved Dumbledore, then it all works out. Else his future self tells his past self to go back and save Dumbledore, in which case it still all works out.
QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 15 2007, 02:29 PM)

Going back in time almost inevitably breaks causality.
No it doesn't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-...tency_principleQUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 15 2007, 02:33 PM)

Well, they've already broken causality by going back in time to save Buckbeak. So fuck you, Shi-man.
As far as I noticed, everything in that episode followed causal relationship. Point out something that didn't make sense.
myscrnnm
Jul 16 2007, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(myncknm @ Jul 16 2007, 07:55 PM)

No see, if Harry makes sure that his past self doesn't know that he saved Dumbledore, then it all works out. Else his future self tells his past self to go back and save Dumbledore, in which case it still all works out.
As far as I noticed, everything in that episode followed causal relationship. Point out something that didn't make sense.
I'm not saying it didn't make sense. I'm saying that if we follow your rules, then it doesn't work.
myncknm
Jul 16 2007, 07:54 PM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 16 2007, 08:40 PM)

I'm not saying it didn't make sense. I'm saying that if we follow your rules, then it doesn't work.
You mean following djbob's rules. He said that time travel almost always kills causality. I say it doesn't. And Buckbeak's rescue followed a perfectly causal sequence (or in some cases, loops) of events, as far as I noticed. If you noticed a causal paradox, please point it out.
myscrnnm
Jul 16 2007, 07:56 PM
QUOTE(myncknm @ Jul 16 2007, 08:54 PM)

You mean following djbob's rules. He said that time travel almost always kills causality. I say it doesn't. And Buckbeak's rescue followed a perfectly causal sequence (or in some cases, loops) of events, as far as I noticed. If you noticed a causal paradox, please point it out.
Ever seen the movie The Time Machine? Apparently not.
myncknm
Jul 16 2007, 08:08 PM
Since when have movies accurately represented scientific knowledge?
He wasn't able to save his girlfriend, because if he did, then he would never have traveled back in time in the first place. But, if he saved her in a way so that he didn't know that she was still alive until after he went back to save her, then it all works out. If he didn't know that she was still alive, then he would still go back in time to save her, so there's no impossibility there. Except maybe the whole time-traveling thing.
myusrnm
Jul 17 2007, 03:16 AM
QUOTE(myusrnm @ Jul 16 2007, 04:02 PM)

update 2:
496 to the end are leaked too.
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3744376/Harry_...Pages_496_to_Enfinished the seventh book. good stuff.
lappy512
Jul 17 2007, 04:24 PM
Please don't post spoilers in this topic
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/N...how/2210078.cmsQUOTE
"Lots of people claim to have copies of the book - but as far as we are concerned the true version has not been leaked," The Sun quoted the rep, as saying.
myscrnnm
Jul 17 2007, 07:19 PM
QUOTE(myncknm @ Jul 16 2007, 09:08 PM)

there's no impossibility there.
Then clearly, you've been bullshitting about the causality stuff this whole time.
myncknm
Jul 17 2007, 07:38 PM
You mean you don't understand. If Tom Riddle died, then there's no way that all the events in the series could've taken place, unless some impostor showed up, or Voldemort isn't really the same person as Tom Riddle. Or maybe even a clone. But in any case, there's no way to prevent the events that already happened from happening, because that would create a contradiction, a paradox.
However, there are ways that time travel can happen without creating a paradox. As in the Wikipedia article I linked, if a billiards ball is shot back in time so that it collides with its past self, preventing it from going back in time in the first place, a paradox results. But, it's possible that it only knocks its past self slightly astray, in a way so that when it goes back into time, it is slightly off-course. Then, since it's slightly off-course, it only knocks itself slightly astray. This is causally consistent and doesn't cause a paradox.
All this is assuming that time travel is possible though.
myscrnnm
Jul 17 2007, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(myncknm @ Jul 17 2007, 08:38 PM)

You mean you don't understand. If Tom Riddle died, then there's no way that all the events in the series could've taken place, unless some impostor showed up, or Voldemort isn't really the same person as Tom Riddle. Or maybe even a clone. But in any case, there's no way to prevent the events that already happened from happening, because that would create a contradiction, a paradox.
However, there are ways that time travel can happen without creating a paradox. As in the Wikipedia article I linked, if a billiards ball is shot back in time so that it collides with its past self, preventing it from going back in time in the first place, a paradox results. But, it's possible that it only knocks its past self slightly astray, in a way so that when it goes back into time, it is slightly off-course. Then, since it's slightly off-course, it only knocks itself slightly astray. This is causally consistent and doesn't cause a paradox.
All this is assuming that time travel is possible though.
Time travel is SO possible, it's been done man. Hello? Time dilation?
myncknm
Jul 17 2007, 08:00 PM
Correction: Assuming that backwards time travel is possible.
djbob
Jul 17 2007, 10:38 PM
QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 15 2007, 10:52 PM)

Methinks Barney and 2Pac will come on the scene in the last battle and help Voldemort with his emotional difficulties, thereby ending his reign of terror.
I agree.
myusrnm
Jul 18 2007, 10:00 AM
If you haven't done so already, I recommend trying to find anagrams in character's names, like Tom Marvalo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort. There's nothing about this in any of the books but the second, I believe, but JK Rowling puts some clues into people's names in this way. Do this with everybody you can. Especially the name Severus Snape.
Also, Lappy, the one copy i put up has been confirmed as real.
myscrnnm
Jul 18 2007, 12:13 PM
QUOTE(myusrnm @ Jul 18 2007, 11:00 AM)

If you haven't done so already, I recommend trying to find anagrams in character's names, like Tom Marvalo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort. There's nothing about this in any of the books but the second, I believe, but JK Rowling puts some clues into people's names in this way. Do this with everybody you can. Especially the name Severus Snape.
Also, Lappy, the one copy i put up has been confirmed as real.
IMFO, I think Snape is going to be revealed as the good guy, and Potter will be like, "Oh shit, my bad."
Damn you Pradeep, you gave away the ending.
myncknm
Jul 18 2007, 01:19 PM
QUOTE(myusrnm @ Jul 18 2007, 11:00 AM)

If you haven't done so already, I recommend trying to find anagrams in character's names, like Tom Marvalo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort. Do this with everybody you can. Especially the name Severus Snape.
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?a...nape&t=1000
Redirishman
Jul 18 2007, 05:20 PM
Mrs Weasley is gonna die. Harrys saved to many of her children.
Potters gonna hook up with Ginny
Rons gonna do Hermione
ALL OUT WAR !!!!!
ohh and "HIT DAT RON"
myscrnnm
Jul 18 2007, 05:36 PM
QUOTE(Redirishman @ Jul 18 2007, 06:20 PM)

Mrs Weasley is gonna die. Harrys saved to many of her children.
Potters gonna hook up with Ginny
Rons gonna do Hermione
ALL OUT WAR !!!!!
ohh and "HIT DAT RON"
I think you're right, except for the part about Weasley.
Redirishman
Jul 18 2007, 11:28 PM
what i mean is she will throw her self infornt of harry like his mom did or some thing like that, save harry and her all the other Weasleys
but there are just to many Weasley for them all to live.
djbob
Jul 19 2007, 12:09 AM
Mayhaps you're right. If so, maybe Percy will die? He's the most rogue of them, anyways. As in, rogue from the family.
QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 17 2007, 11:38 PM)

QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 15 2007, 10:52 PM)

Methinks Barney and 2Pac will come on the scene in the last battle and help Voldemort with his emotional difficulties, thereby ending his reign of terror.
I agree.
That will indubitably occur.
myscrnnm
Jul 19 2007, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(Redirishman @ Jul 19 2007, 12:28 AM)

what i mean is she will throw her self infornt of harry like his mom did or some thing like that, save harry and her all the other Weasleys
but there are just to many Weasley for them all to live.
Dude, that'd be way to unoriginal. It'd be like a cliche.
Redirishman
Jul 20 2007, 08:15 AM
ehh it would make sence, i just figure some one has to be way self sacrificeing other than harry
myusrnm
Jul 20 2007, 08:52 AM
QUOTE(myncknm @ Jul 18 2007, 02:19 PM)

I was thinking more "
Pursues Evans"
edit: oh well that doesn't work. I thought I had figured something out.
Something is messed up with my spellcheck in firefox today.
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Aqua Roach
Jul 20 2007, 08:59 AM
I hoped the author dies before finishing it. How annoying to see and hear people talk about that at school.
And the actor, oh my God, he's one hell of a nerd. If I ever see him on the streets, they'll only find his hand gripping his little magic wand.
myscrnnm
Jul 20 2007, 12:25 PM
QUOTE(Aqua Roach @ Jul 20 2007, 09:59 AM)

I hoped the author dies before finishing it. How annoying to see and hear people talk about that at school.
And the actor, oh my God, he's one hell of a nerd. If I ever see him on the streets, they'll only find his hand gripping his little magic wand.
lmao, there are a bunch of girls at my school who want to get fucked by Daniel Radcliffe's Harry Potter, or Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow.
Aqua Roach
Jul 20 2007, 01:39 PM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 20 2007, 03:25 PM)

lmao, there are a bunch of girls at my school who want to get fucked by Daniel Radcliffe's Harry Potter, or Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow.
Wow, what is this world coming too? Girls now like guys wearing makeup and guys who play with sticks.
myscrnnm
Jul 20 2007, 01:41 PM
QUOTE(Aqua Roach @ Jul 20 2007, 02:39 PM)

Wow, what is this world coming too? Girls now like guys wearing makeup and guys who play with sticks.

lmao. It's a sad world we live in.
lappy512
Jul 20 2007, 02:26 PM
myscrnnm
Jul 20 2007, 02:33 PM
QUOTE(lappy512 @ Jul 20 2007, 03:26 PM)

lmao, the New York Times can suck it.
myusrnm
Jul 20 2007, 03:16 PM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 20 2007, 01:25 PM)

lmao, there are a bunch of girls at my school who want to get fucked by Daniel Radcliffe's Harry Potter, or Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow.
Daniel Radcliffe has been trying to shake off the kid friendly look.
like in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PhSe1JZD1g
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